Give him the Scrap. The thing is: Grim Dawn is really grim. Part of me wants to "collect" NPCs for the town, to intentionally make that village burn to get the orphans in DC, but so far my conscience hasn't let me. What i dont get is (maybe bcs i am not from english speaking country and missed something), he is Chthonic agent (Cultist Orders - Salazar, Blade of Chthon) but later he is Aetherial boss. With some playthroughs, I get the key right smack in Burrwitch Outskirts at the precise time I want it. Killing Silas will unlock the quest For the Children. You have delivered the scrap to Silas, ensuring that New Harbor does not suffer the wrath of the bandits. I usually try to just be patient about Strange Key if I didnt get one already (never factored that into the appeal of keeping him alive or killing him). Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. If you typically spent all first 70 points in Physique, its probably wise to not spend the rest immediately. Never did that. Alicia from New Harbor in Old Arkovia. Of course it's just a game but still.. Pay him 2500 Iron and he will be only too happy to move on. Bring the cultist note to him. Silas is an NPC located in New Harbor and the target of the quest Paying Tributes. Unfortunately i forgot to take cultist Orders before entering Cronleys Lair. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Kill Silas and end his tyranny over the fishermen. This is an Act 2 side quest given by Alicia in New Harbor, a small village located southeast of the Old Arkovia Rift gate. Good article, theres some good advice here. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. After getting the info, you can still choose to kill him if you wish. Attributes gives small bonus to damage, health, or mana, but their main value is being a requirement for armors and weapons. Never ever told Mornay about Elsa. He says he was travelling with his partner and a cart full of salvaged scrap. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. If so, you could read Grim Dawn A Detailed Analysis next. Always side with Anasteria unless you are doing the one specific build that needs her helmet. Guide Isaiah Reddan can be found just a little further along the road. In this guide, Ill give you some useful Grim Dawn tips to help you to play the game in a more efficient manner. Be it faction, or some random trader you murdered on the road, you have a second and third chance to rectify your choices. You have bribed Silas to leave New Harbor alone. Ill split the tips into more than one article, to give some details on each part. I usually forget about Silas and go directly after Cronley in every run, thought I would kill Silas first this time around. Things like Polished Emerald , Spellwoven Thread , and Vicious Jawbone can be a source for some attributes early on. History After choosing to rescue Julius and Helen, the player is not granted any quest, experience, nor reputation. You should let Alicia know that the outlaws will leave them alone from now on. Only thing I want to add is that, I think, the Ashes expansion added a potion that lets you repec your attribute points. Yes, when I first heard this tip from professional players, I thought it sounded counter-productive, and boring, and that it would make progression slower. She asks you to collect the missing scrap in the village's stead. Background Someone in Cronley's Gang witnessed the killing of Silas, and arrived shortly after you left to take revenge on the fishing village, killing everyone and taking the children to Cronley's Hideout. And if you cant stand few hits, you will have to start running to escape, and will stop doing damage. I even tried a second time. very important to not get 1 hit by the toughest bosses. 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But Max these out by the time you get Ultimate, it will be very useful. Nothing happens if you let him live, he just disappears. I Kill everyone that I am allowed to, as I like to keep the population down. Talk to Alicia again for the reward. Talk to Alicia again for the reward. All rights reserved. But these are topics not for this article. Thats where it gets tricky, you are level 20, and you get a nice drop which makes you all excited, but sadlyyou cant equip due to lack of Spirit, or Cunning. Kill Silas. Everybody's moved on, and so should you. I always whoop him on normal, bonus DC reputation and Blood of Chthon are more worthy then those few reputation points. So dont rush maxing all skills, but instead increase mastery bar early on. You level up, youimmediately spend your point into Spirit or Cunning. You will then need to fight him. Killing aetherial vanguard is a surefire way to get back any black legion rep though. Poor people though, I felt really bad after that. Arab hardcore PC gamer, Im from Egypt, and Ive been gaming on PC and writing since 2003. Valve Corporation. Well it seems that he hates Devils Crossing and John Bourbon more than anything but the Bloodsworn were a little bit to extreme for him so he joins Cronley at the end, He dropped 2 or 3 legs for me yesterday farming for rep and a ring. Although with good choices, it's only a few bounties away from honored by the time you get there. Direni is dead and John Bourbon of Devil's Crossing will surely want to hear an explanation. Someone's gonna have to explain this to me (Cronley/Town). If the player chooses to bribe him, he will go away after starting a new game session. You think your comment was so necessary that it warranted a 3-year necro bump? Your two classes increase your attributes passively, which get you the points required to equip things. For the latter part, you have a good chance for tainted brain matter to drop each time you fight him in Cronleys Hideout? You have delivered the scrap to Silas, ensuring that New Harbor does not suffer the wrath of the bandits. I keep getting booped with comment notifications. There doesn't seem to be any . I bee-lined it straight for their camp, leaving a path of complete and utter destruction, clearly feeling the need to quickly save those people. Killing Silas can't be undone, so you'll have to wait until you play through the content again to make an alternative choice. On the road to every major proc skill, you will find small boosts in attributes. If you are going to run Cronley more than 7 times, its worth it to leave Demetri alive for rep, otherwise kill him. If this were a tabletop, then rushing through might have worked since the DM would grasp the speed that you responded. 1. Even if they dont give direct benefit to your build, using them for the stats is okay. Bribe Silas to leave New Harbor. Larkin asks that, should you run into a man named Isaiah, to kill him on his behalf. Originally posted by Vel medvdek: It is (gameplay wise) similar choice as with Outcast. Physical resistance is very hard to come by though. The better decision is clearly to kill them all. It makes maxing your resistances much smoother. Okey so I recently picked up Grim Dawn and I'm shy of 7 hours into the game, really enjoying it, and got close to old Arkovia. Fact: A man lays dying and blames Isaiah for stabbing him. The matter is: If you dont have the specific gear the build asks for, you either ask the guide writer to suggest you a beginner alternative, or dont do this build. Alicia from New Harbor in Old Arkovia. Talk to him and you will be presented with several options. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Paying_Tributes. Wow. Killing him will end the quest. However, with PC games, unless the dev puts a timer on it(hate those quests personally) it's going to have to go to one state or the other. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. You get one precious attribute point each level, which you can spend on Physique, Cunning, or Spirit. You have opted to slay Silas rather than perpetrating the extortion happening at New Harbor. Its also worth mentioning this game is on a huge sale now on Steam (75%) , and expansion on (25%) for 48 hours. No worries. All rights reserved. You must eliminate him before anyone gets hurt. I put it further down the list because its not mandatory in Normal and Elite. He was imprisoned for refusing to obey orders. Alicia was very clear that no harm should come to Silas as she fears retribution. All rights reserved. You will grab these by default on the way, so dont worry about changing anything for attributes. When talking to Silas you can choose to deal with him in one of three ways: Alternatively, kill Darius Cronley before speaking to Silas and Silas will flee. Kill Cronley, the Act 2 Boss. Then talk to Silas a second time and kill him. If they do not deliver enough scrap to Silas, their overseer, he will undoubtedly execute someone. So, as you know, there's a guy name Silas in the Town camped by refugees being extorted by Cronley. Objectives Rescue Oscar Jr. and Judith from Cronley's Hideout. Its good on one side, as it make you keep playing the game, go wherever you like, and enjoy all the content without worrying about the drops, since what you get here would be the same as you got there. These are not strictly magic items. Who set it on fire? Pay him 2500 Iron and he will be only too happy to move on. People mostly keep him alive to farm rep faster, but not because of the loot. Well, now im even glad with the mistaken choice. But having played this game over 400 hours, I can totally confirm the viability of the method. When it seems I have an option for things like that I look it up online before making a decision. Yep, this was a surprise for me because I had no idea it would happen and didn't think Cronley would respond that fast considering I went after him right after killing Silas. Pay him 2500 Iron and he will be only too happy to move on. The Kymon's MI drops are much better than the Order MI drops. But having played this game over 400 hours, I can totally confirm the viability of the method. Collect the scrap and give it to Silas without fighting. Hopefully itll also make it a more enjoyable game for you. Kill Silas and end his tyranny over the fishermen. Ultimate = boss in Cronleys Hideout (rep farming and some loot). Killing Silas will unlock the quest For the Children, but it will not return you the Scrap. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Make sure to replace your low level equipments regularly with something with higher armor and decent stats. No matter what level you are (beyond the first ten or twenty), you always need to prioritize defense. Please someone tell me it's going to be alright :(. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. In other words, many builds are gear dependent, which might not be friendly for beginners. Turns out she's a slave and wanted me to give Scraps to this douche with an accent he was a damn idiot so I decided to, uh, well, kill him. While a good defense allow you to stand your ground for a bit, giving you better chance at finishing enemies before they finish you. Alicia begs you to rescue them. I bee-lined it straight for their camp, leaving a path of complete and utter destruction, clearly feeling the need to quickly save those people. Even in normal you can encounter some hard to pass encounters as a glass cannon. So, as you know, there's a guy name Silas in the Town camped by refugees being extorted by Cronley. 7 Javierkid 3 mo. You have slain Cronley and scattered his gang. You have slain Silas, liberating New Harbor of the bandit influence. So now he's dead and I don't plan doing multiple . Except now that awesome drop isnt awesome anymore. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, translation missing: en.js.preloader_text, strange key, which opens the iron door for Depraved sanctuary. Plain and simple,Physique is the most important attribute. Its one time use and you only get it from certain side quests, so still need to be careful with how you spend the points. Got two new orphans in Devil's Crossing though. Larkin asks that, should you run into a man named Isaiah, to kill him on his behalf. It not only gives flat numbers in health (which can be multiplied by various ways), but the best defensive armor requires so many points spent on Physique maybe even All points in it. Yes, when I first heard this tip from professional players, I thought it sounded counter-productive, and boring, and that it would make progression slower. Never kill Derini. Is there any way to load a previous state or any workaround to undo that? Ignore Silas. Yeah, I noticed that! I feel like there's an option that could be included that would be the "best" option and it's just not included because they want the atmosphere of the game to be helpless but with all possibilties for this scenario it just seems unrealistically helpless for the sake of being helpless. Favorite genres: RPG, ARPG, Third Person, Isometric, Hack&Slash, and Adventure. Speak to Alicia about the good news. 3 Samoth95 7 yr. ago Except, y'know, not being a dick. This way you can cash in a second time when you rescue the villagers much later in the game (don't worry, you'll encounted them automatically). Grim Dawn is a rich world, with countless possibilities to replay the game and having different experience. Like Vitality damage builds, and retaliation builds, also solider shield builds are very strong and Crucible viable in general. You will then need to fight him. I hope that you liked this article. His partner jumped him in the middle of the night and stabbed him, making off with the loot and leaving him to die. A group of survivors in New Harbor are being forced to work for Cronley's gang, and the quota for their deliveries keeps increasing. All of your choices can be changed later in higher difficulties. You may still choose to kill Silas after. I thought it'd generally be better to kill him in Act 1 during Cultist's Orders so that he doesn't block the way over and over in subsequent Cronley runs, especially in ultimate, since I thought he'd just mostly slow down each run. Showing 1 - 5 of 5 comments Astasia Jan 21, 2016 @ 10:26am You should let Alicia know of your actions. They are not part of any hidden quest line, either. If you hear Isaiah out he will explain that Drew Larkin tried to rape his daughter and that he was defending her. That and I was sure the devs would pull some sort of stupidity if I chose to stop the game there (come back to flaming ruins). Otherwise, the player would fight him, and Alicia will give the quest For the Children. Well, not nothing , since the faction gear can be excellent choices for some builds, best in slot even. Then you spend one more hour, and your are level 30. Adding another mastery depends on your direction, or respec to another build entirely, Grim Dawn is flexible like this. And there are some where I have a level 85 character in ultimate that has yet to encounter a single damned Strange Key in that difficulty and maybe wishing I just got it from Direni. Kill Isaiah as asked. Isaiah Reddan can be found just a little further along the road. I explored the area a bit and found this little place called "New Harbor" and talked to some of them, when I found Alicia and her daughter. Pay him 2500 Iron and he will be only too happy to move on. The next expansion, Forgotten Gods, wasannounced earlier this month, and is due to be released on Steam and GoG in second half of 2018. A Family Crisis - Official Grim Dawn Wiki in: Quests A Family Crisis Edit This is a small Act 2 side quest that begins when you talk to Stephen Skinner after encountering him at his house in the Arkovian Foothills . And THEN you have to farm for the helmet, which takes a very, very, very long time. You can accept his word or ask for half his profits in exchange for letting him live. I don't know, it just kind of happened and now Alicia started being angry with me for some reason and I just ignored it, guess she was a bit surprised by my heroic act. Small event from killing Silas Didn't know that would end up in the small village's destruction. Skills like Blast Shield from demotionalist , or Gaints Blood from Constalltions are very strong defense in tight situation where you cant do much. Is that a deliberate choice, like does fighting him over and over there have a chance to drop something good? For example, consumables, powerfulMythical Relics, parts of legendary items sets and the most important components. If you want to face them properly, a good amount of stun resistance and armor + Physical/Lightning Resistance for Rekt Byprotoss/Acedian Aldric respectively will do the job. You can actually get some solid gear from them to cover any weakness your character have. This greatly disappointed me as well. The prices he offers depend on whether you extorted him; if you didn't, he buys and sells at much better prices. It begins when you find Drew Larkin in the Arkovian Foothills. The things he did as a bandit. So, I decided to spare Frankie "The Knife" up until he told me about Cronley's secret behind his bed. But the loot tables are shared among all monsters in the world, meaning that anything can drop anything, and there are no specific spot to farm any item. Fact: He was on a business venture with someone who raped his daughter - and I don't know anyone who would do that. These guidelines are only for those who dont like to feel overwhelmed by the amount of customizations the game have. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). You lose like 250 rep. Dont let Armor fall behind too much. Contents 1 Campaign 2 Quotes 3 Dialogue 4 Gallery Campaign After you find Cultist Orders, the side-quest A Cultist in the Midst begins. Keep in mind many choices in this game have consequences down the road.. some big and some small. The crafting can give you rares and scales up with your level. A group of survivors in New Harbor are being forced to work for Cronley's gang, and the quota for their deliveries keeps increasing. The drop rates in grim Dawn are very good, and you keep getting good items constantly as you play. Right. Kill Cronley, the Act 2 Boss. You will then need to fight him. Always side with Anasteria unless you need to farm her items. I was surprised to see some videos of endgame Cronley runs where players chose to keep Direni alive to fight him over and over and over in Cronleys Hideout. He will sell various rare components like Focusing Prism and Blessed Steel. I didnt think of it from a rep standpoint to kill him over and over. Normal/Veteran and Elite difficulties = revealed and killed in A1 Devils Crossing (exp and DC rep at the moment) I see, that coincides with my personal experiences. https://grimdawn.gamepedia.com/Quests spikenik August 2, 2019, 5:59am #3 Mornay does actually have a lootable corpse, but I don't remember it dropping anything particularly special. You should let Alicia know that Silas is appeased. By end game, you realize that attributes cant be refunded and new gear needs different distribution. I killed him. Bribe Silas to leave New Harbor. Then go back to the vilalger to collect your reward. Killed Isaiah Redden.